FOX: "Kill Social Security"
It looks like some folks have already decided the debate is over. The folks at Forbes on Fox are jonesin' to pull the plug (or is it feeding tube?) on Social Security and get on with the funeral already.
Notice it's not even a question under this guy's smiling face. It's an exclamation!
And they've got the tombstone picked out and ready.
Via Media Matters.
Notice it's not even a question under this guy's smiling face. It's an exclamation!
And they've got the tombstone picked out and ready.
Via Media Matters.
posted by Anonymous at 11:51 AM
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Agree, about time we get rid of that old and busted system.
I actually agree more with the panel members who were in favor of keeping SS, but improving it or having alternative options for Americans
i agree, while the current system could be improved upon somewhat, i'd rather see it kept the same than go bush's route.
WooHoo!!!! Death to Social Security!
Did that guy just wanted it ended or did he want a bush-style plan to "save" it, thereby extending it's intrusion into our lives forever?
www.socialslavery.com
WHAT OBVIOUS PROPAGANDA!!! HERE IS THE WHOLE SEGMENT FROM FOX.
KILL SOCIAL SECURITY OBVIOUSLY MEANS KILL THE CURRENT SYSTEM AND INSTITUTE SOMETHING THAT IS FAIR AND WORKS.
THIS IS HILARIOUS. ROCK THE VOTE WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO MISLEAD THE YOUTH ON SOCIAL SECURITY. IF THIS ISN'T PROOF THAT EVERYONE VISITING THIS SITE IS BEING MISLED BY ROCK THE VOTE, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS.
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Flipside: Social Security Turns 70 and Now's the Time to Kill It!
Quentin Hardy: We have to face some realities. Social Security is turning 70 and it's getting into its dotage. The best thing to do is to stop it now. Cut it up and return it to the investor and just focus people's mind on saving for themselves.
Jim Michaels: Don't kill it. It's very popular. Many people depend on it. Give people an alternative. Let younger people and even middle-age people opt into a private account system. If that happens, then in 10 years Social Security would dry up because people would see private accounts as superior. But don't shove private accounts down people's throats. Keep both systems.
Mike Ozanian, senior editor: Give people their money back and give them the choice. Have them save on their own so that Congress can't spend it.
Victoria Murphy: We need Social Security. Many people depend on it. If you get rid of it you get something like an old person's tax. It will lose political clout. We can't leave those people out on the street. Social Security plays a necessary roll.
Lea Goldman: We made a promise to these older people and it's a promise we should keep. That's the moral argument. On the other side, Americans have voted that they want to keep it. A study just came out that said 80 percent of non-retirees, if given the opportunity to opt out, would choose to stick with this current system. Lets also keep in mind how many senior citizens do rely on it. It's the demographic that faces the least poverty level of any and that's thanks to Social Security.
Jim Michaels: Let's keep it but give people an alternative and in 10 to 20 years, nobody will want Social Security anymore. Private accounts are so much better.
Lea Goldman: I know tons of people who can't even balance their own checkbook. Do they really want to get involved with investing for themselves?
Mike Ozanian: The reason people vote for keeping Social Security the way it is, is because they think that there is some magical account there that has their money in it. There is one budget, the money is used for everything. You should let people take their pretax earnings and put it in their own account. They'll do much better than they would with Social Security.
I'm thinking that SS won't really be resolved for a while. There are a lot of issues of importance at the moment and though I would like to see some changes to the SS system, I find issues like Health Care and the War in Iraq more important right now.
In the meantime, I will save money for retirement in 401Ks and IRAs.
Theath,
Could you be more inflammatory or misleading in your post, please? You seem to be unfamiliar with that program. That segment of the broadcast is always hyperbolic.
What young people really need is the freedom to opt out of Social Security.
Brilliant. Simply brilliant.
Ending Social Security would be THE SINGLE GREATEST THING to ever happen to the retirement security and current savings of the generation Rock the Vote claims to represent. THE GREATEST THING- better than any tax cut, better than any pay increase, better than any change in the minimum wage, better than any change in state taxes, better than any change in government spending.
That 12.4% chunk of our paychecks coming back to us would help us pay off tremendous student loans, pay our rent, pay for our bills, put more money into savings, invest and make more money than Social Security could ever promise us, and give us a de facto pay raise of 12.4%.
Fox News may be accused of bias, but on this one, they're brilliant. That is, if they really advocated ending Social Security, which I doubt they did. Fox News is as "nonpartisan" as Rock the Vote claims to be.
Take that last sentence however you want to take it.
For more details on why the above comment about how social security sucks is true, check out:
www.socialslavery.com
I'm all for ending social security, after reading about it in the links above. Peoples' inability to depend on themselves is no reason to keep encouraging their inadaptability and incompetence.
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